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Author Topic: How do you handle your Rage when its at your therapist???  (Read 7692 times)
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« on: May 05, 2009, 04:45:05 PM »

 Angry Oh I guess you can see Im struggling with this today. In an evaluation by a therapist I was written up as "reluctant to talk about personal issues!" I was very upset by this. Angry I feel I have made progress in group therapy....I was most comfortable in individual therapy but this is what being offered and so I believe Im doing my best. However; one therapist doesnt believe me. How does others deal with their anger or rage when its directed at their therapist?? I flew off the handle, and am still upset. Infact; I self harmed when i got home dispite talking to my personal (individual therapist). I didnt slf soothe either I was just mad! At times I just want to "drop out" of group! I feel no one really understands me or the true issues of people with BPD. Does anyone else feel this way?? Or how do you handle the anger issues with therapy? monk
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 12:39:28 PM »

Angry Oh I guess you can see Im struggling with this today. In an evaluation by a therapist I was written up as "reluctant to talk about personal issues!" I was very upset by this. Angry I feel I have made progress in group therapy....I was most comfortable in individual therapy but this is what being offered and so I believe Im doing my best. However; one therapist doesnt believe me. How does others deal with their anger or rage when its directed at their therapist?? I flew off the handle, and am still upset. Infact; I self harmed when i got home dispite talking to my personal (individual therapist). I didnt slf soothe either I was just mad! At times I just want to "drop out" of group! I feel no one really understands me or the true issues of people with BPD. Does anyone else feel this way?? Or how do you handle the anger issues with therapy? monk

When I was in therapy during my recovery many years ago I felt as you describe many times. What I learned, however, was that each and every time I was angry with a therapist it was important to be honest and to talk about it and to work it through with integrity and without punishing or blaming the therapist. It is important to take personal responsibility for one's own anger and any and all consequences of it.

The angrier I got in therapy and the more I had to struggle with not acting that out or just bolting from therapy, actually, the more I learned about my (at that time) lost self and the more I learned about relating in healthy ways. I learned about how others are separate from me and how they have a right to talk about what they want or not and that whether it would feel fair or "right" to me wasn't important. My anger and frustration, in therapy, all those years ago, was still a defense against all the pain I had to become more aware of, endure, grieve and let go in order to recover. I learned from my anger that it is okay to feel what one feels but that everything one feels is not how others feel and that others can't "always" understand someone else's pain and that they are not responsible for the other person's pain and they don't have the other person's answers either. I learned from working so hard to not rupture the relationships I had with the therapists in the group therapy where I recovered from BPD that anger is healthy and that what matters most about it isn't feeling it or not but what one chooses to do with it when one feels it.

It is important to also know that when things don't feel "fair" or you don't feel "heard" "validated" or "understood" that is NOT abandonment - it is NOT betrayal - it is just someone else being who they are - thinking what they think from where they are sitting - it is just a difference between two people. People with BPD must work hard not to "fuse" with other - especially a therapist and then expect (in a cognitively distorted way) that the therapist will see things as you do all the time.

Be thankful for what angers you and work to understand it more and become more aware of the triggers it contains. Learning to break down the defensive walls of anger is a very important part of recovery.

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 07:06:12 PM »

 Huh Thanks AJ for replying. Roll Eyes  Im trying to take in what you wrote and I hope one day i will get there. Undecided. Today in group I did vent in a nice way about the recent "reluctancy thing" from the therapist. Im not sure if she understood. I get defensive with her because i feel as though she's trying to "control me". The control issues for me stems to sexual abuse and I feel as though I need to protect myself. I dont know how to separate the two things yet. Im still responding in a "Knee Jerk" response; I guess you could say impulsively. Embarrassed. So much of the information given in group goes over my head; its slowly working. At times I feel the therapist thinks "I got it and frankly I don't". Perhaps Im trying too hard... Embarrassed.

AJ, Thanks for having this site Tongue I appreciate the chance to communicate with others who deal with BPD and especially those who have recovered or are in the present process of recovery.   monk
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 12:37:43 PM »

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It is important to also know that when things don't feel "fair" or you don't feel "heard" "validated" or "understood" that is NOT abandonment - it is NOT betrayal - it is just someone else being who they are - thinking what they think from where they are sitting - it is just a difference between two people. People with BPD must work hard not to "fuse" with other - especially a therapist and then expect (in a cognitively distorted way) that the therapist will see things as you do all the time.

such an excellent point!

and monk, i'm with you about feeling criticized or rejected. AJ is right though...they are just presenting a perspective. it's hard to accept at times, but we can get there. keep working hard monk, you're doing great.

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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 02:59:03 PM »

 Grin Thanks again; I appreciate the support and validations?. Monk
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 03:01:40 PM »

 Grin. I realized I hit a question mark ooops that was a mistake I meant thanks for the validations?Huh?! Monk ( I'm using a mobile device ). ?
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 03:05:18 PM »

 Huh I'm embarrassed???! I have arthritis and keep hitting the wrong letters?. I mean thanks for the sweet validations.?monk
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2009, 03:03:23 AM »

don't feel embarassed. and you are welcome. that's why this place exists. it's already helped me alot. it's nice to talk with other people who understand.
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2009, 08:32:12 AM »

Thank you AJ,

I have started printing parts of the dialogue in this board and pasting notes all over my bathroom.  This reply is one of the most helpful and hopeful that I've ever encountered.  Thank you. I feel so blessed to have found this forum.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2009, 02:12:18 AM »

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have started printing parts of the dialogue in this board and pasting notes all over my bathroom.

what a great idea! i love it and plan on employing it!
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2009, 04:00:43 PM »

I think posting reminders for yourself is a great idea. The only problem is if other people see them.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2009, 07:03:53 PM »

Guess that's one advantage of living alone.   Sad
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 12:30:05 PM »

It's not my live-in bf I would worry about but anyone who came to visit...  Undecided
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2009, 01:47:53 AM »

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AloneAgain,

hope you are doing well. how are you doing living alone? i lived alone for about 8 months recently (after a horrible breakup). it was hard. i had two cats to take care of, so they kept me somewhat regulated. how are you doing with it? it's not easy, i know. i used to have to force myself to go to the grocery store. i barely paid my bills. i wore stinky clothes to work. i was so bad at it, i had to move in w/my parents.  Cry

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2009, 11:25:11 AM »

Thanks so much for asking.  It was horrible living alone at first but my husband died of a massive heart attack at the young age of 55 in 2003 so I didn't have much choice.  But I was paralyzed with fear at the beginning.  It's somewhat better now that I understand that this fear is part of my illness. 

After much reading and understanding, I'm beginning to think that maybe the shock of his death is what took my former symptoms which I was somewhat able to keep under control about 60-70% of the time ... to a full blown case of BPD along with the PTSD that hit the moment I leaned over ( in a hotel room in a foreign country, 6 thousand miles from home on vacation) ... to kiss him good morning only to realize he was already cold.  Even today, I can't begin to describe how hard that was.  Like my own life was over ... my best friend, business partner, father of my children ... just gone.  I didn't speak the language, didn't understand all the red tape of how to get him home ... such a jumble.  I was a crazy woman for the next few years except I tried to pretend to the outside world I was normal so I could keep my business going.  Sometimes it worked ... usually it didn't.

But now that I'm on meds, my symptoms are pretty much under control ... most of the time.  I live in a very isolated, remote, rural area, and work alone out of my home in the business he & I had.  Thee are weeks that I have absolutely no contact with the outside world unless I buy groceries and that's hardly an interaction. 

I read at least an hour every day in one of my BPD books or workbooks.  Learning slowly but learning ... and have faith that I can conquer this thing.

Again, thank you so much for asking.  How are you doing?  Reading other posts is for me, a critical part of my recovery but people just don't seem to post here often ... and I don't understand that.
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