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« on: November 13, 2008, 09:11:39 PM »

If you have BPD, are you angry with one or both of your parents? If so, why? How do you express this anger (or rage) with your mother or father?
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 07:12:07 PM »

YES!!! I for one am quite angry with the people who were my first and most important primary caregivers. My parents were separated and there was a definite combination of factors but my father was an alcoholic and my mother... well, I don't know what's wrong with her but she is extremely dissociated (more now than ever) and doesn't seem to have an empathy chip. On top of that she's always been hostile and impatient. I'm not saying that my childhood was all bad. I had some good experiences with other family, sadly I couldn't actually experience positive feelings in these situations, just a sense of guilt, unease, even self-disgust. And any later experiences with teachers, peers, etc which damaged me were due to my already impaired way of relating to people stemming from my earliest experiences. We are all unique though. I'm sure not every BPD hates their body as much as I do. I can't even take my clothes off in front of my partner, though we are having a baby! This is (partly) because Dad used to tell me "you're getting fat like your mother", and Mum used to tell me the reason she was fat was because she had us kids, that I would grow up to have a body like hers and that was that. This started from when I can remember. One of my earliest memories is of pulling all my clothes out of the drawers to play dress ups, and Mum coming in and screaming at me, asking me why I'd done it. I was only four or so, but my instinctive response was to say "Because I thought you didn't love me anymore". This wasn't true, but it got the desired effect. She stopped screaming and broke down and hugged me, everything was okay.... at least until next time. I am estranged from my mother now. She cannot accept any responsibility for my emotional state, which I am healing myself, and the first step was to leave her behind for good. I've spent my whole life banging my head against the brick wall that is my mother, screaming at it to love me or I'll destroy myself (this is a metaphor, I never said that), and it got me nowhere. I feel that I am so much more than my mother now, deeper than the ocean while she is just the little pools left in the shower recess after I wash all the SHIT of the day away. Still somehow I wish she would wake up, the difference is I've stopped pushing and am trying to accept that I don't really need a parent like that, though somehow I feel I do as my identity is so deeply anchored in hers. I really was just wondering if anyone else has had this sad experience? So much more I could say but there's not much point. Please reply to this if you have had similar experiences.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 06:19:05 PM »

I can't really say I am angry with my parents. Like flicker-thru my father was an acoholic, and my mother probably suffer(s) from some kind of personality disorder. I haven't had contact with my parents for about 18 months now. I wrote them a letter asking if we could be a little more open about the reality of our home life when I was a kid, and they haven't spoken to me since. Oh well. Given that, as my handle here suggests, I am almost 50, it is too late to really fix anything with them. I wasn't even angry when I wrote the letter, just being torn in two by the two versions of reality I was trying to live in. Mine and theirs. Anyhow, that is not to say that I don't know I have a lot of historical anger to work through. Whenever I manage to connect with it! But that will be between me and my therapist, and is really not my parents' business at this point. I have to say also, that it is good for me not to have contact with my mother right now, because I have internalized her to such an extent that I am really stuck living her version of who I am a lot of the time.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009, 02:29:47 PM »

Oh gawd yes this fits! I blame my father for alot of my problems! I honestly believe that if he had not run me so far into the ground after my brother died (he was the golden child who could do no wrong and I was the the little screw-up who couldn't do anything right). Until last summer I had no anger towards my mother. However, last summer my parter and I managed to get my mother away from my dad long enough (she is a totally different person when away from him!) for us to talk. During our outing, I chose to address some things that I had been holding in for years. One of the events I brought up was Dad's last public outburst (see my post in the introduction section), which my partner witnessed. I was appalled when she had the nerve to say "it never happened"! I went into a minor fit of rage and blurted out "I swear you have selective hearing and selective memory when it comes to that man!" Even my partner told her it happened just as I had described it and still my mother had no recollection of it! How totally unbelievable could she get???
Well this Christmas, my partner and I went to my folks and once again the subject of my childhood and adult experiences came up. This time Dad overheard me (he was another room). I was not at all prepared for what followed.......he called me a GD liar! I tried very calmly to explain where I was coming from and he kept repeating I was a GD liar and then put his finger right in front of my nose and ordered me to my room and to bed!!!!!! I am 47 years old!! It was at that point that I went into a rage or was it survival mode? At any rate, he had the same look in his eyes that I remember from my youth....you know the one where he is about to knock the crap out of you. At that point my partner saw I was getting to the point that if he dared touched me there was going to be an all out battle, so she moved his hand out of my face and told him not to put his finger in my face again. He then made a motion like he was going to go after her! Lucky for him he cuaght himself and screamed he was leaving.........he grabbed his wallet and keys and went to a motel room! I don't know what I have might have done had he touched either one of us that night.....I'd probably been sitting in a jail cell. Sure I have bouts of occasional rage fits, but never had I felt such an intense rage as that night.
After he left, my mother, my partner and I were talking and again brought up things that my partner had witnessed Dad do or say........Again mother denied it all! She has no recollection of any of the things my dad did to me or the things he has said to me! So once again I telling her she has selective hearing and selective memory when it comes to him! For years people have told me I needed to be just as angry at my mother as I was at my father.....I finally got there this year! She has been there for every physical abuse and every verbal/emotional abuse event and she doesn't rememer any of it?Huh How is that possible?? If I could forget everything like she has, then maybe I would not be where I am today. In her denial of the events and her also calling me a liar as Dad had done earlier.....I told her that he was a sorry excuse for a human being and she replied that I was just like him. That was the worst thing she could have said to me. My father and I are extreme opposites.....I despise him as a person, but I do love him for he is my father. I had told her last summer she should just divorce the man and she would be much happier. I reiterated that this time and went on to say he was the angriest person I have ever know and had no idea why he was so angry at the whole world. She then proceeded to say it was because of my brother (he died in 1970). At that point I told her "that was 38 years ago, it is time to let that go. I am sorry you lost your sone, it is no secret that he was the golden child and I was the screwed up little beotch! It should have been me that died and I have said that my whole life! I truly am sorry you got stuck with the wrong child, cuz you both would have been much happier had it been me and not my brother that died that day!" Yep.........I said that and I have really felt that way for most my life as I have always said my life became a living hell the day my brother died...it is when everything began as far as the abuse went. Mother then asked me if I could put it all behind me because she did not like my dad being stuck in a hotel room. No way! I then packed my bags and went to my grandmother's (Mother's mom) house for the remainder of the Christmas week. Neither my mother or my father joined the family for Christmas eve dinner at my gr-aunt's house! So I was blessed with the task of explaining their absence! Lucky for me both my grandmother and my gr-aunt have known all along what I have had to go through and they truly are on my side! My grandmother has totally changed her will and removed my father from the will as well as she has cashed in all of the Savings bonds she had bought for dad over the years! That was actaully quite funny to me that she did that and my mother has no idea. I haven't spoken to either of my parents since I left their house. My grandmother is now my sole confidante, only thing is she is 92 so I have no idea how much longer I will have her in my life and that really saddens me to think of her not being here to get me through the rough spots. I have no idea how I would have gotten through the holiday had she not been there. It was perhaps the most awful experience yet, and still I let my anger towards my mother finally come to the surface. The last thing I said to my mother before I left to go to my grandmother's was "you both really need to go to a doctor and get your heads checked out, because there is something seriously wrong....your brains are not working right!" And to think all of these years I had only harbored anger at my father, yet my mother was just as guilty by turning a blind eye at every corner!
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 04:51:57 PM »

This is a hard topic for me, so bare with me and I will try not to get carried away.  Yes I'm (very) angry at my mother for what she has done to me and for screwing up my life. Yes I say screwing up my life because if it wouldn't be for what she has done to me, I wouldn't be in this situation right now.  I would be less depressed and probably I could handle the BPD, where is who I go it from.  Of course she denies everything but it's always been her way or no way at all and me, myself and I.  It hurts Angry to go back and descrbie this because I cannot handle it and it always makes me cry Cry.  During my childhood, as the last child of my family, she abused me in every way that exists, not sexually, but everything else.  I say she took me for her punching bag to get out her frustrations and when she did not get what she wanted again she took it all out on me.  How could I've been so blind?  But I didn't know any better because she hid it very well, that I deserve the punishments and that is was God's will and it was meant to be that way.  I'm the one who is encharge of you and controls and decides what you do. So I thought that it was all normal.  I didn't even know I had a dysfunctional family.  Well things got turned around when I was in High School.  They started to get involved, arranged therapy sessions out of school hours but with their help.  One of my teacher, for whom I was babysitting said, "you will tell your mother that you are coming to babysit for me.  I will go and get you at your place, bring you to your appointment and when your appointment is over, you call me and I'll go get you and bring you back home.  So your mother won't notice anything."  And that's what my mother beleived.  Because I was afraid to get a beating if she found out.  Thank God I had good teachers.  I was about in my 6th month of therapy, when the psych said now I need to see your mother and you have to tell her to comme and see me.  I freaked out, cause I didn't know how I was going to tell her and was afraid to get another beating.  But one night I was doing the dishes, my father was home, and she said you cannot hide anything from me because I have complete control over everything that you do.  I turned around so angry and said well your are darn wrong.  I've been seing a psych for the past 6 months and now he wants to see you, it's your turn to go.  Thank goodness Dad was there or God knows what would have happened.  She raged to the office the next day, mad as anybody can imagine, is what I was told.  I could picture that.  As soon as I finished high school, I went to college and married the next month of my graduation.  I told my husband I was not going back home and he totally agreed.  When I was hospitalized for my depressions at first, the psych had arranged a session with both my parents, social worker, him and me.  I don't recall the whole session well, but I remember this phrase:  "My mother asked me why do you despise and resent me so much and not your father?  Well I looked her straight in the eyes and pointed my finger and said, My father never laid a hand on me, but you....there are not enought words to describe what you did to me and I'll never forget it."

Now to come to today's strategies, I don't speak to her anymore because 2 years ago she stabbed me in the back again, because things weren't done her way and that I did not let her get away with it.  I said some pretty colorful words and said, yes just because it was not done your way, but my way you can't live by it, well to bad for you.  She tried to apologize, I said apology not accepted.  I'm 42 yrs old and if you think I'm going to act as if nothing happened your wrong, not this time.  People think I'm selfish but I say it's payback time.  I don't know how long it's going to last because, like I mentionned before when it comes to that issue, I just cry, cry and cry Cry.  I've lost alot of opportunities because of her and as I got sicker, it even cost me my job.  So now you probably understand why it's hard for me to write about my mother and so forth.  One thing that I'm working hard is not let her destroy me, cause she is not worth it.

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 11:46:48 AM »

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Still somehow I wish she would wake up, the difference is I've stopped pushing and am trying to accept that I don't really need a parent like that, though somehow I feel I do as my identity is so deeply anchored in hers.

In response to flicker-thru who made the above incredibly insightful observation (and generally to everyone). The wish for one's mother to as you say, "wake up", is the longing of the lost, very young, abandoned, and wounded inner child in those with BPD.

I can relate to what everyone so far has posted in this topic area. When I had BPD, I was so angry at my mother, but at my father too. My anger toward my mother was mixed with how incredibly unimportant I seemed to make her be in my reality even as a young child. I thought she was just dumb. I thought she was more like a little kid than I was when I was only 8. I had no sense of how I was supposed to be able to trust this person, who had sexually abuse me and beaten me before the age of 4. Who was she? Why was she always so angry? Why was it I couldn't get what I needed? Why was I always obviously not an emotional priority? So many questions for so many years.

There was a time also when I used to believe that my lot in life, when I had BPD, so my lot in life for the first 30-38 years of my life was my mother's fault. Now, however, and since my recovery over 12 years ago I realize that while there wasn't a bond or even insecure attachment with my mother - I felt so estranged from her even as a young child, that what was lacking in my life as I chronologically hit adulthood was my own personal responsibility.

No, we are not responsible for the failings of our mothers (or parents) but once we reach adulthood, if we don't start to accept that we are now responsible for what we do or don't do - for what we choose or don't choose in our lives, we continue, as most with BPD do (for various amounts of time) to live through the false self which has within it dissociated from fragments of that lost, abandoned, and wounded inner child.

It is the pain of the wounded inner child that are the toxic ties that bind and that can keep you stuck in BPD and suffering. Anger is natural. Anger, however, can either be a motivating force toward healing and change or it can be channeled at getting even, vengeance, punishing your mother - and really, even if you could ever punish your mother "enough"

a)It won't change the past
b)It can't save you from the woundedness you've already experienced
c)It keeps you stuck in the victim mentality of the borderline false self
d)It keeps you separated from your inner child - she needs you!
e)At some point you will realize just how emotionally incompetent your mother was/is and then you
be faced with the realization that she didn't have the tools necessary to parent you

And back to what flicker_thru said,

"I feel I do as my identity is so deeply anchored in hers."

Very well said, well put and right on! As someone who took the journey of raging against my mother fo years, of hating her, of re-experiencing her in and through everyone I tried to relate to when I had BPD, I have found my way to forgiveness and compassion for my mother, personal responsibility for myself and the realization that it is only through that journey that one can true find freedom from one's mother, especially, if like mine, your mother is a borderline mother.

Our identities as little girls totally do begin and end with mother. The wounds of abandonment, rejection, and lack of bonding with a mother who couldn't meet your needs and/or who has abused you and not nurtured you truly hold you bound to that legacy because the inner child longs and fights hard to try to GET what never was or recapture some moment that was but for a second.

There is a symbiosis in even the unhealthiest of experiences with one's mother that is in essence the reality that identity (the self lost) is anchored in mother and the unmet needs of that relationship until such time as one is ready to take the grief-filled journey of letting that go and accepting it for the devastating loss that it was and has continued to be.


In my BPD Inside Out Podcast I have an episode (free) about being the adult child of a borderline mother at:
http://www.borderlinepersonality.ca/ajmaharibpdaudio.htm

I have a video on my Blog about the need for recovery if you are the adult child of a borderline mother at:
http://borderlinepersonality.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/01/adultchildrecovery.html

On my BPD Blog I have written about being an adult child of a borderline mother and how I had to choose no contact in order to heal and recovery at:
http://borderlinepersonality.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/08/as-an-adult-child-of-borderline-parents-i-had-to-choose-no-contact.html

I have also written about forgiving my mother and if I can find that link I'll get it up here. Otherwise you can search my blog for it at:

http://borderlinepersonality.typepad.com

Please know that what I am saying, from where I am at in my life now, with the whole "mother thing" is meant to give you food for thought. I absolutely do not mean to invalidate at all how anyone feels toward their mother because how you feel is valid because it's how you feel. My point here that may be trying to somewhat challenge you, isn't that you aren't entitled to your feelings - you absolutely are - but the point is that if you continue to focus on those feelings rather than getting actively into choosing to free yourself from your mother - which means working through the pain of the anger and loss - you can suffer a long time (even after your mother passes away) if you choose to continue to invest energy into wanting to punish or seek revenge. Understandable emotions for sure. But "young" emotions. As an adult now you will find emotional freedom, over time, in learning to let go of that anger, let your heart break, grieve the loss, and then set out to learn ways that you can become the mother that you so needed as a child, to your own wounded inner child - that's the path of so much healing.

I recovered from BPD 14 years ago now but still I have some grief about the loss of my mother and that we didn't ever bond or attach or have a relationship. Being open to the sadness when it comes, now and again, means that I can be free of being attached to that pain, sadness, or what used to be anger. I radically accept who my mother (who has BPD) was and still is.

My father was also borderline. I used to just hate him so. I was so angry there too. That was a whole other process of work in therapy to through the issues with him and his abuse of me. He died in 1997, I hadn't spoken to him in the last 7 years of his life. My mother didn't tell me until 8 months after my father had died that he was actually deceased but then I hadn't spoken to her in those 7 years either.

My point is this, if I had made different choices, or chosen not to make the choices that I have to grieve, to face my pain, to get the professional help I needed, to stick with it, to heal and recover, I wouldn't have the emotional freedom I have from both parents, but, specifically with my father. I truly do not hate him anymore. I have forgiven him. I have compassion for his suffering in life. I used to want him to go to hell and now I no longer feel that way. Not only do I believe that my father didn't go to hell but I believe he was forgiven my God and that his energy is still and that it has shifted. I can feel it.

Think about your own pain and brokenness and then think about what pain and brokenness your mother or father, or as in my case, both, might well also have suffered and carried or still suffer and carry. It is not an excuse for abuse or poor parenting - no it isn't - but it is a reality that when faced and accepted can help you to grow past the anger of the wounded inner child to find some emotional peace as an adult. Emotional peace that can't be known unless and until you can take personal responsibility for yourself and not lay the blame or fault for what happened to you or what you didn't get that you needed in childhood with your mother and/or father.

When you have BPD, it isn't your fault. But what is your responsibility now is to find your way to the best life that you can and to find your way to the healing and recovery that you so deserve. What was lost with a parent (more often than not) cannot be made up for or changed. One just has to radically accept it, grieve it, and in the process stop letting it hold you precious identity, your precious lost authentic self hostage to anger, wanting to punish and/or revenge.

Just for your information I have an ebook coming out very soon about BPD and Punishment and Revenge which is written to and for both those with BPD and Non Borderlines. It will likely be a tough read but might be one that will help those with BPD to gain insight into another huge piece of the puzzle of recovery.

You'll be able to find that ebook, when it's available, in the Ebooks Borderline Category of my website at:
http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca

I really hope that you (all of you and others that my join in) will continue to talk about your feelings here and I hope perhaps I might have added something here that can plant a new seed of thought and seeking in your process with regard to your anger with a parent or our parents.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 12:27:06 PM »

Yes. Absolutely.

I have been extremely angry at my family.

My mother. My father. My step father. My step sister. My half sister. My aunt. My grandmother.

For things they did (and said) to me and to others. For things they did not do but should have. For not understanding me and my needs. For not caring enough to really talk to me about the issues and pushing me away instead. For refusing to admit the truths about their own pasts. For pretending I am the only one who has wronged. For pretending I have no reason to be angry with them. For thinking I should sweep everything under the rug. For thinking I am the only one who needs to change or apologize for anything. For not trying harder. For walking away when I needed them the most. For being dishonest and keeping big dark secrets that eventually came out and kicked my ass.

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 12:32:24 PM »


Still somehow I wish she would wake up, the difference is I've stopped pushing and am trying to accept that I don't really need a parent like that, though somehow I feel I do as my identity is so deeply anchored in hers.

In response to flicker_thru who made the above incredibly insightful observation (and generally to everyone). The wish for one's mother to as you say, "wake up", is the longing of the lost, very young, abandoned, and wounded inner child in those with BPD.

I can relate to what everyone so far has posted in this topic area. When I had BPD, I was so angry at my mother, but at my father too. My anger toward my mother was mixed with how incredibly unimportant I seemed to make her be in my reality even as a young child. I thought she was just dumb. I thought she was more like a little kid than I was when I was only 8. I had no sense of how I was supposed to be able to trust this person, who had sexually abuse me and beaten me before the age of 4. Who was she? Why was she always so angry? Why was it I couldn't get what I needed? Why was I always obviously not an emotional priority? So many questions for so many years.

There was a time also when I used to believe that my lot in life, when I had BPD, so my lot in life for the first 30-38 years of my life was my mother's fault. Now, however, and since my recovery over 12 years ago I realize that while there wasn't a bond or even insecure attachment with my mother - I felt so estranged from her even as a young child, that what was lacking in my life as I chronologically hit adulthood was my own personal responsibility.

No, we are not responsible for the failings of our mothers (or parents) but once we reach adulthood, if we don't start to accept that we are now responsible for what we do or don't do - for what we choose or don't choose in our lives, we continue, as most with BPD do (for various amounts of time) to live through the false self which has within it dissociated from fragments of that lost, abandoned, and wounded inner child.

It is the pain of the wounded inner child that are the toxic ties that bind and that can keep you stuck in BPD and suffering. Anger is natural. Anger, however, can either be a motivating force toward healing and change or it can be channeled at getting even, vengeance, punishing your mother - and really, even if you could ever punish your mother "enough"

a)It won't change the past
b)It can't save you from the woundedness you've already experienced
c)It keeps you stuck in the victim mentality of the borderline false self
d)It keeps you separated from your inner child - she needs you!
e)At some point you will realize just how emotionally incompetent your mother was/is and then you
be faced with the realization that she didn't have the tools necessary to parent you

And back to what flicker_thru said,

"I feel I do as my identity is so deeply anchored in hers."

Very well said, well put and right on! As someone who took the journey of raging against my mother fo years, of hating her, of re-experiencing her in and through everyone I tried to relate to when I had BPD, I have found my way to forgiveness and compassion for my mother, personal responsibility for myself and the realization that it is only through that journey that one can true find freedom from one's mother, especially, if like mine, your mother is a borderline mother.

Our identities as little girls totally do begin and end with mother. The wounds of abandonment, rejection, and lack of bonding with a mother who couldn't meet your needs and/or who has abused you and not nurtured you truly hold you bound to that legacy because the inner child longs and fights hard to try to GET what never was or recapture some moment that was but for a second.

There is a symbiosis in even the unhealthiest of experiences with one's mother that is in essence the reality that identity (the self lost) is anchored in mother and the unmet needs of that relationship until such time as one is ready to take the grief-filled journey of letting that go and accepting it for the devastating loss that it was and has continued to be.


In my BPD Inside Out Podcast I have an episode (free) about being the adult child of a borderline mother at:
http://www.borderlinepersonality.ca/ajmaharibpdaudio.htm

I have a video on my Blog about the need for recovery if you are the adult child of a borderline mother at:
http://borderlinepersonality.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/01/adultchildrecovery.html

On my BPD Blog I have written about being an adult child of a borderline mother and how I had to choose no contact in order to heal and recovery at:
http://borderlinepersonality.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/08/as-an-adult-child-of-borderline-parents-i-had-to-choose-no-contact.html

I have also written about forgiving my mother and if I can find that link I'll get it up here. Otherwise you can search my blog for it at:

http://borderlinepersonality.typepad.com

Please know that what I am saying, from where I am at in my life now, with the whole "mother thing" is meant to give you food for thought. I absolutely do not mean to invalidate at all how anyone feels toward their mother because how you feel is valid because it's how you feel. My point here that may be trying to somewhat challenge you, isn't that you aren't entitled to your feelings - you absolutely are - but the point is that if you continue to focus on those feelings rather than getting actively into choosing to free yourself from your mother - which means working through the pain of the anger and loss - you can suffer a long time (even after your mother passes away) if you choose to continue to invest energy into wanting to punish or seek revenge. Understandable emotions for sure. But "young" emotions. As an adult now you will find emotional freedom, over time, in learning to let go of that anger, let your heart break, grieve the loss, and then set out to learn ways that you can become the mother that you so needed as a child, to your own wounded inner child - that's the path of so much healing.

I recovered from BPD 14 years ago now but still I have some grief about the loss of my mother and that we didn't ever bond or attach or have a relationship. Being open to the sadness when it comes, now and again, means that I can be free of being attached to that pain, sadness, or what used to be anger. I radically accept who my mother (who has BPD) was and still is.

My father was also borderline. I used to just hate him so. I was so angry there too. That was a whole other process of work in therapy to through the issues with him and his abuse of me. He died in 1997, I hadn't spoken to him in the last 7 years of his life. My mother didn't tell me until 8 months after my father had died that he was actually deceased but then I hadn't spoken to her in those 7 years either.

My point is this, if I had made different choices, or chosen not to make the choices that I have to grieve, to face my pain, to get the professional help I needed, to stick with it, to heal and recover, I wouldn't have the emotional freedom I have from both parents, but, specifically with my father. I truly do not hate him anymore. I have forgiven him. I have compassion for his suffering in life. I used to want him to go to hell and now I no longer feel that way. Not only do I believe that my father didn't go to hell but I believe he was forgiven my God and that his energy is still and that it has shifted. I can feel it.

Think about your own pain and brokenness and then think about what pain and brokenness your mother or father, or as in my case, both, might well also have suffered and carried or still suffer and carry. It is not an excuse for abuse or poor parenting - no it isn't - but it is a reality that when faced and accepted can help you to grow past the anger of the wounded inner child to find some emotional peace as an adult. Emotional peace that can't be known unless and until you can take personal responsibility for yourself and not lay the blame or fault for what happened to you or what you didn't get that you needed in childhood with your mother and/or father.

When you have BPD, it isn't your fault. But what is your responsibility now is to find your way to the best life that you can and to find your way to the healing and recovery that you so deserve. What was lost with a parent (more often than not) cannot be made up for or changed. One just has to radically accept it, grieve it, and in the process stop letting it hold you precious identity, your precious lost authentic self hostage to anger, wanting to punish and/or revenge.

Just for your information I have an ebook coming out very soon about BPD and Punishment and Revenge which is written to and for both those with BPD and Non Borderlines. It will likely be a tough read but might be one that will help those with BPD to gain insight into another huge piece of the puzzle of recovery.

You'll be able to find that ebook, when it's available, in the Ebooks Borderline Category of my website at:
http://phoenixrisingpublications.ca

I really hope that you (all of you and others that my join in) will continue to talk about your feelings here and I hope perhaps I might have added something here that can plant a new seed of thought and seeking in your process with regard to your anger with a parent or our parents.

I have many miles to go and many pieces to find, yet.

My father is the one I grew up most angry at. I never was angry at my mother. She left me when I was 6. I remember that terrible day very clearly. It was all my fault that mommy left.
She visited once, then I didn't see her till I looked her up when I turned 18. When I saw her and how she lived I knew she was an emotionally unstable, whiney, goaless drunk. Whenevery I hear the song, "Queen of the Silver Dollar" I think of her. She was the Queen of the Smelly Ginmills.

I'm just beginning to feel that anger at being abandoned by my mother. She didn't care one wit about my brother and I.

My dad, though, was another story. He 'raised' us. Actually, past age 6, I raised us. I protected my brother as much as I could from the terrible beatings my father gave him. I would feel so helpless, screaming into my pillow as I heard my brother's body hit the walls and his screaming pleas, "Please, daddy. Please, don't daddy."

The first time he hit me with his fist rather than his belt or open hand, I ran away. I would have stayed away if my brother hadn't followed me. At 16 and 14, we turned ourselves in to the cops and made a pact that we wouldn't go back to that awful man. My mother and grandparents weren't to be found, so there we sat in juvenile. I finally relented.
A hearing was set, but no one showed up, so back to lock up we went.

The next week he showed up and I will never, ever forget his words. He looked at me with that sickening expression of self pity and said, "How could you do this to me?"

Here is a quickie profile of 'daddy':
Violent -- he would beat up any woman or child who got in his way.
Alcoholism made his violence very unpridictable in intensity. He'd be passed out in his room with the fumes of second hand muscatel seeping out of his bedroom. We never knew what would come out ... demanding his supper ... beating up on my stepmother for 'hiding his booze' or a violent raging bull.
He always sat in his big chair with one leg folded beneath him dressed in stained and torn T Shirts and old gray workpants. His bottle of Carstairs whiskey, or when the money ran out and my stepmother went to the store to steal wine, Muscatel on the floor next to him.
There, in his thrown he would throw orders, demand to know what we were talking about, demanding us to stop whispering and to 'get that dirty look off your face.'

He would sit there, in his chair, drinking his booze or eating a stolen steak. He would often regurgitate and then swallow it. Often times he would be in his briefs sitting in that chair and he would fondle himself.

I am well aware of the premise that forgiveness is for the forgiver. I can't, yet. I don't know if I will ever. Actually, I don't want to ever forgive him. It would be like saying it is all ok and it isn't.

A few injuries: he broke my brothers foot and ankle and caused my brother to have a permanent stoop from hitting so many walls and tables. He broke my stepmother's shoulder, gave her a blood clot on the brain.

I was always so guilty over not getting beaten as badly as they did. I was always trying to make things ok...cooked the meals, did the shopping and laundry, cleaned the house, bought my brothers school clothes with my babysitting money so he wouldn't steal.(My dad would bring home the most awful Salvation Army clothes for him)

I hadn't seen my brother for twenty years, although we would talk on the phone every couple of years to keep in touch. Ten years ago, I moved back to our home state and at every Christmas time, I'd search for him. Two years ago I'd found out he died two years previous.
It hit me very hard because I had visions of him knocking on my door, clean and sober and ready to start anew and we could talk and talk and talk then put the ugliness to the ground for good.

Poor guy never had a chance. He knew nothing but that he was a "Dirty little sonofabitch."

Cheryl
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